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Translation of Trac to Portuguese/Português [pt_BR]

Reported by: asmodai@… Owned by: lwatter
Priority: normal Milestone: translations
Component: i18n Version:
Severity: normal Keywords: l10n portuguese
Cc: michelts@…, leslie@…, luigi.cardeles@…, daltonmatos@…, cleo.sl@… Branch:
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Description

This ticket should be used to coordinate the translation to Portuguese. See also TracTermsPtBr.

Attachments (8)

trac-messages.po (84.3 KB ) - added by leslie@… 11 years ago.
trac pt_BR intermediate translation
trac-messages.2.po (84.3 KB ) - added by leslie@… 11 years ago.
Intermediate translation of the pot file - updating last translator to myself
messages-pt_BR.diff.gz (950 bytes ) - added by michelts@… 11 years ago.
Some corrections on the actual translation
trac-merge.po (96.6 KB ) - added by leslie@… 11 years ago.
Translation of Trac to pt_BR (Brazilian Portuguese)
messages.3.po (109.2 KB ) - added by guilherme@… 10 years ago.
Translation for language pt_BR - Version 0.12dev - translated texts of dates - datefmt.py added (week, month, day, and plural words)
trac-messages.3.po (117.4 KB ) - added by leslie@… 9 years ago.
Trac PO Messages File
updates-and-verify-trac-messages.sh (610 bytes ) - added by lwatter 9 years ago.
Script that updates from svn and verify translation messages and calculates % of translations
messages.po.diff (1.3 KB ) - added by cleo.sl@… 9 years ago.
"pedido" and "ticket" fixes

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Change History (62)

comment:1 by asmodai@…, 12 years ago

Keywords: portuguese added

comment:2 by asmodai@…, 12 years ago

Summary: Translation of Trac to Portuguese [pt_BR]Translation of Trac to Portuguese/Português [pt_BR]

comment:3 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 12 years ago

Milestone: not applicable0.12
Owner: changed from Jonas Borgström to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

comment:4 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Status: newassigned

comment:5 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Component: generali18n

comment:6 by leslie@…, 11 years ago

I would be glad to contribute to this translation. Please use my e-mail address to CC myself when the file changes. Thanks

LEslie

by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Attachment: trac-messages.po added

trac pt_BR intermediate translation

comment:7 by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Cc: leslie@… added

I've sent an intermediate translation of the potfile. An entire translation will be uploaded as I finish the work.

Cheers,

LEslie

by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Attachment: trac-messages.2.po added

Intermediate translation of the pot file - updating last translator to myself

comment:8 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Committed in r6970. Obrigado.

comment:9 by jardimpinheiro@…, 11 years ago

Existe previsão de lançamento da versão do Trac com internacionalização disponível?

Obrigado.

comment:10 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Not quite, I think it should be released this year, but it depends on how things go. This language support is in SVN trunk already though.

by michelts@…, 11 years ago

Attachment: messages-pt_BR.diff.gz added

Some corrections on the actual translation

comment:11 by michelts@…, 11 years ago

Cc: michelts@… added

There was a small error on translation, Submit changes (on wiki edit page) was translated to Última alteração, I think this should be Enviar mudanças. I fix it on the last patch, I fix some missing/erroneous message translations too.

Leslie, what is the status of your work? I didn't advance forward before know if you sent your last update.

Best regards, Michel Thadeu Sabchuk

comment:12 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Michel,

so is milestone marco or marca? Because you used marco consistently, whereas the current translation file has marca. I've changed all marca instances to marco, where you missed them.

Also, you have added things like %(last)d of %(total)d, but for all I know Portuguese in Brasil has no 'of' in the language, shouldn't this be something like de? I did not add those for now.

See r7283.

Muito obrigado!

comment:13 by lexrupy@…, 11 years ago

Type: taskenhancement

I think the best translation for Milestone is keep the English word milestone. nobody I know in project-managemet call milestone as "marco" or "marca". Otherwise a good translation for common use whould be "Planejamento"

comment:14 by anonymous, 11 years ago

Type: enhancementtask

sorry, accidentally I changed the type to enhancement…. rolling back to "task"

comment:15 by anonymous, 11 years ago

Roadmap = Planejamento

comment:16 by Christian Boos, 11 years ago

Milestone: 0.130.12

comment:17 by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Cc: leslie@… added

Hi Michael, I'm planning to finish the work this week. Sorry by the long delay. Revisors are welcome.

Cheers,

LEslie

comment:18 by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Cc: leslie@… removed

Attached (trac-merge.po) is the latest version of the translation to brazilian portuguese. There is only one msgid missing.

Revisors are welcome.

Tks

LEslie

by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Attachment: trac-merge.po added

Translation of Trac to pt_BR (Brazilian Portuguese)

comment:19 by leslie@…, 11 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

comment:20 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

Please don't close this ticket for now. It's for tracking the translation up till 0.12 release.

comment:21 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 11 years ago

Committed in 7349. Muito obrigado!

comment:22 by anonymous, 11 years ago

como aplicar a tradução.

comment:23 by ronaldorezende@…, 10 years ago

How can I use the translation? Can I apply it in trac 0.11.1?

comment:24 by carlos.migliavacca@…, 10 years ago

Hi,

Can I apply the translation? I tryied with:

pybabel init -D trac -i trac-merge.po -d /usr/share/locale-langpack/ -l pt_BR

It justs create the file trac.mo, but doesn't works… Where do I put this file?

Thanks!

in reply to:  23 comment:25 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 10 years ago

Replying to ronaldorezende@…:

How can I use the translation? Can I apply it in trac 0.11.1?

It is only for 0.12 and onward.

in reply to:  24 comment:26 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 10 years ago

Replying to carlos.migliavacca@…:

Can I apply the translation? I tryied with:

pybabel init -D trac -i trac-merge.po -d /usr/share/locale-langpack/ -l pt_BR

Please see http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracInstall#InstallingTrac

in reply to:  12 comment:27 by dserodio@…, 10 years ago

Replying to jruigrok:

Michel,

so is milestone marco or marca? Because you used marco consistently, whereas the current translation file has marca. I've changed all marca instances to marco, where you missed them.

Marco is much better

by guilherme@…, 10 years ago

Attachment: messages.3.po added

Translation for language pt_BR - Version 0.12dev - translated texts of dates - datefmt.py added (week, month, day, and plural words)

comment:28 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 10 years ago

Committed in r8390.

comment:29 by Luigi Castro Cardeles <luigi.cardeles@…>, 10 years ago

Cc: luigi.cardeles@… added

comment:30 by Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven, 9 years ago

Owner: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven removed
Status: reopenednew

comment:31 by Christian Boos, 9 years ago

Milestone: 0.12translations

by leslie@…, 9 years ago

Attachment: trac-messages.3.po added

Trac PO Messages File

comment:32 by leslie@…, 9 years ago

Updating translations to 0.12b1 string freeze

in reply to:  32 comment:33 by Christian Boos, 9 years ago

Replying to leslie@…:

Updating translations to 0.12b1 string freeze

Too bad you missed the beta1 for 2 hours ;-)

But hey, that release kept slipping for about 2 weeks now, so it was really time…

Committed your catalog in r9598.

However, that translation is only up to 75%, as the latest messages.pot template has 1099 messages. You have basically 2 ways to refresh a catalog from the template:

  • using Python tools (install Babel 0.9.5 and python setup.py update_catalog -l pt_BR or simpler, make update-pt_BR)
  • using msgmerge from the msgfmt tools , if you're familiar with that; Transifex does that for you when you download the catalog, so it's also an easy way to always work on an up to date catalog

comment:34 by Christian Boos, 9 years ago

Owner: set to lwatter

Leslie, a few remarks about [9683]:

  • lots of errors during catalog compilation; please do make compile-pt_BR and fix the error this reports before committing
  • the commit message should have the following format "l10n/pt_BR: some message (83%)", the percentage being the ratio of (make stats-pt_BR translated messages) / (make stats-pot untranslated messages).

I'm not even sure why the catalog was compiled at all without -f, while there were still strings marked as "fuzzy"…

in reply to:  34 ; comment:35 by lwatter, 9 years ago

Replying to cboos:

Leslie, a few remarks about [9683]:

  • lots of errors during catalog compilation; please do make compile-pt_BR and fix the error this reports before committing
  • the commit message should have the following format "l10n/pt_BR: some message (83%)", the percentage being the ratio of (make stats-pt_BR translated messages) / (make stats-pot untranslated messages).

I'm not even sure why the catalog was compiled at all without -f, while there were still strings marked as "fuzzy"…

Sorry about that Christian, I've fixed it here and it should be ok in [9694] with all of your's comment.

Cheers,

Leslie

in reply to:  35 ; comment:36 by Christian Boos, 9 years ago

Replying to lwatter:

… Sorry about that

No problem, this was undocumented so far. I took this opportunity to add some notes about it, and even added a make summary-... command yesterday ;-) (TracL10N#ForCommitters).

in reply to:  36 comment:37 by lwatter, 9 years ago

Replying to cboos:

Replying to lwatter:

… Sorry about that

No problem, this was undocumented so far. I took this opportunity to add some notes about it, and even added a make summary-... command yesterday ;-) (TracL10N#ForCommitters).

Great! I've used your comments to build my environment here. I've done a sprint to finish it by now and it's done (for now) at [9695].

I've also built a shell script that runs the validation commands and calculates automagically the translation percentage (uses sed + bc to do it). I'm attaching it to this ticket.

With a few modifications, it could be included as a helper for other teams ;-)

Cheers,

LEslie

Last edited 9 years ago by Remy Blank (previous) (diff)

by lwatter, 9 years ago

Script that updates from svn and verify translation messages and calculates % of translations

comment:38 by anonymous, 9 years ago

The term keyword added should be translated as Palavas-chave adicionada (singular) and Palavras-chave adicionadas (plural). Thanks.

comment:39 by daltonmatos@…, 9 years ago

Cc: daltonmatos@… added

comment:40 by cleo.sl@…, 9 years ago

Cc: cleo.sl@… added

comment:41 by cleo.sl@…, 9 years ago

wiki:TracTermsPtBr states that "Solicitação" should be used for the translation of "ticket". However, in some places it appears as "tíquete", and others as "ticket". Are there any plans of changing this translation? Or perhaps documentation on why this was changed? (Plus: Is this the appropriate way of contacting the translation team? If not, how?)

in reply to:  41 comment:42 by lwatter, 9 years ago

Replying to cleo.sl@…:

wiki:TracTermsPtBr states that "Solicitação" should be used for the translation of "ticket". However, in some places it appears as "tíquete", and others as "ticket". Are there any plans of changing this translation? Or perhaps documentation on why this was changed? (Plus: Is this the appropriate way of contacting the translation team? If not, how?)

Hi Cleo,

Fixed in every place I've found. Ticket term to pt_BR translation is Tíquete.

Yes, this is the place ;-)

Cheers,

LEslie

by cleo.sl@…, 9 years ago

Attachment: messages.po.diff added

"pedido" and "ticket" fixes

comment:43 by cleo.sl@…, 9 years ago

Hello Leslie,

I spotted a few problems in the translation currently in the svn 0.12 stable (which we are using actively at my workplace), and fixed them. Attached to this comment is a patch you might want to apply (messages.po.diff).

On the ticket term for pt-br (tíquete), shouldn't we change that on the wiki also?

Cheers,
— Mírian.

comment:44 by Adrian Fritz <adrian@…>, 9 years ago

My 2 cents.

I made some "polishing" or "fine tunning" on http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTermsPtBr?version=23 for some Trac terms. Some of them (for complete suggestions see above page):

Notes:

Sorry not to have used Trac translation standard procedure.

Any doubt feel free to contact me.

Adrian

in reply to:  43 comment:45 by lwatter, 9 years ago

Hi Mírian, I've fixed the tiquete translation that you've spotted. The term in wiki was also changed. Tks for the report. Cheers,

LEslie

Replying to cleo.sl@…:

Hello Leslie,

I spotted a few problems in the translation currently in the svn 0.12 stable (which we are using actively at my workplace), and fixed them. Attached to this comment is a patch you might want to apply (messages.po.diff).

On the ticket term for pt-br (tíquete), shouldn't we change that on the wiki also?

Cheers,
— Mírian.

in reply to:  44 ; comment:46 by lwatter, 9 years ago

Hi Adrian,

I would like that you've discussed your modifications here before making such big changes at the wiki page.

There are many changes that I do not agree as a Brazilian Portuguese native speaker. So, I'll revert your changes for now, and we can discuss it here, before showing them at the wiki.

Note that this translation is for Brazilian Portuguese team, and some Portugal terms do not apply to our reality.

Cheers,

LEslie

Replying to Adrian Fritz <adrian@…>:

My 2 cents.

I made some "polishing" or "fine tunning" on http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTermsPtBr?version=23 for some Trac terms. Some of them (for complete suggestions see above page):

Notes:

Sorry not to have used Trac translation standard procedure.

Any doubt feel free to contact me.

Adrian

in reply to:  46 comment:47 by Adrian Fritz <adrian@…>, 9 years ago

Replying to lwatter: Hi LEslie,

Note that this translation is for Brazilian Portuguese team, and some Portugal terms do not apply to our reality.

I know, and suggestions are for pt_BR. My reality it's also pt_BR.

Let's discuss a little about tiquete? I believe it's not a good word even in English.

At Trac, a Ticket represents:

  • a note
  • a task assignment
  • a registry of …
  • a notification of …
  • a discussion thread
  • enhancement request
  • report of …

Tickets are part of an Issue tracking system. Then we are dealing with issues. By now I couldn't find any other words more appropriate or widely representative of the whole idea than Incidente.

The word tiquete it's a slang.

Regards,

Adrian


Some references I used today to make my point :-)

comment:48 by cleo.sl@…, 9 years ago

Hello Leslie and Adrian,

On the corrections I've sent: Leslie, have you also fixed the "pedido" occurrence? It should be "ordem". "Order" have both translations in portuguese, but "ordem" is the right one in that place.

On the "tíquete" discussion: I also don't like the current translation, but we have to keep in mind that no translation will please everyone. At my workplace we use a slightly modified trac version, where "ticket" was translated to "demanda". If you intend to change the current translation, I would suggest "ocorrência" (my personal favorite), "demanda" or "chamado" instead of "incidente", which are more common words in helpdesk and issue tracking systems I'm aware of.

Cheers,
— Mírian.

in reply to:  48 comment:49 by daltonmatos@…, 9 years ago

Replying to cleo.sl@…:

On the "tíquete" discussion: I also don't like the current translation, but we have to keep in mind that no translation will please everyone. At my workplace we use a slightly modified trac version, where "ticket" was translated to "demanda". If you intend to change the current translation, I would suggest "ocorrência" (my personal favorite), "demanda" or "chamado" instead of "incidente", which are more common words in helpdesk and issue tracking systems I'm aware of.

Hi everyone,

I also agree that "chamado" is better than "incidente" fot the translation of "ticket".


Dalton

comment:50 by Adrian Fritz <adrian@…>, 9 years ago

Ocorrência is a good one too! And it's equivalent to Incidente. (If adhere a guideline: to avoid words requiring special characters on computers as much as possible. That's another story).

I think chamado it's restrictive for the sense of general issue (from bug report, help desk, requirement management, …). Same for demanda

Regards,

Adrian

comment:51 by lwatter, 9 years ago

Hi Folks,

sorry for the long delay, but sometimes real life takes it's time.

Trac is a ticket system, it controls tickets, and a ticket can be used as many things, like : (pt_BR only)

  • Um chamado
  • Uma demanda
  • Um incidente
  • Um pedido
  • Uma solicitação
  • Um relatório de bug
  • Ocorrência

A tíquete is a generic term that can be used in all of the above ocasions. All of these things can be summarized on a ticket, but a call (chamado) is not a request (uma solicitação) or even a bug report (relatório de bugs).

The word tíquete is not a slang as can be seen at Brazilian Academy of Letters http://www.academia.org.br/abl/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?sid=23, just put tíquete at the search field.


Um tíquete é um termo genérico que compreende todos os termos mencionados. Todos esses termos tem em comum informações que são colocadas em um tíquete e também são tipos de tíquetes. Configurando os tipos de tiquetes no trac podem coexistir tanto incidentes, quanto pedidos e os demais em uma única base de …tíquetes.

Mas esses não contemplam a totalidade da abrangência do tíquete. Cada uma dessas traduções tem um único caso onde se aplica e tíquete é o termo genérico para todas.

O tíquete é uma palavra sim e não um termo chulo. Está definido pela academia brasileira de letras ( http://www.academia.org.br/abl/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?sid=23 coloque tíquete no campo de pesquisa) como substantivo masculino.


So, because of this, I'll stay with ticket at the oficial repository.

Thanks,

LEslie

comment:52 by Adrian Fritz <adrian@…>, 9 years ago

Good arguments, I support them :-). Let's move on.

Now I suggest Milestone to be translated as "Etapa" (currently "Marco").

Adrian

comment:53 by ricardo.piccini@…, 8 years ago

Hello people!

What's the status of this project?

thanks in advance!

comment:54 by watter@…, 8 years ago

Hi,

It's still alive and running.

Cheers

LEslie

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