Remove "- Trac" suffix from the HTML head title

[ilias@…]

Every page generated by trac contains "- Trac" at the end of the html title (hard-coded in header.cs).

Trac is not the central part of a project (and thus of the projects documents). The project is the central part, thus the project name should be the last part in the titles.

This woul would increase additionally the quality of search-engine results which subject trac itself (i'm hitting permanently on non-relevant stuff due to the "Trac" in the headers.

This is true for the trac.edgewall.org site, too. I'm currently on the page

New Ticket - The Trac Project - Trac

[anonymous]

This is not urgent for 0.10.

[ilias@…]

I think it is.

Please do not change a milestone as "anonymous".

[mgood]

Replying to ilias@lazaridis.com:

I think it is. Please do not change a milestone as "anonymous".

I agree with anonymous. Ilias, please don't set 0.10 for new tickets. One of the developers will change the milestone if we feel like it's important, but we need to get 0.10 wrapped up.

[ilias@…]

Replying to mgood:

Replying to ilias@lazaridis.com:

I think it is. Please do not change a milestone as "anonymous".

I agree with anonymous.

possibly. but in context 'workflow', an anonymous should not touch the milestone.

Ilias, please don't set 0.10 for new tickets.

ok - see #3734

One of the developers will change the milestone if we feel like it's important,

I've changed the ticket, as it's basicly it's a defect.

but we need to get 0.10 wrapped up.

Solving this ticket is non-intrusive.

As for getting 0.10 out, I'm interested in this, too.

Is there any "help for 0.10 needed" document?

[coderanger@…]

This is trivial to override yourself, just edit the template, or if you want to avoid that, copy header.cs to the env's templates folder, and edit it there.

[ilias@…]

Replying to coderanger@yahoo.com:

This is trivial to override yourself, just edit the template, or if you want to avoid that, copy header.cs to the env's templates folder, and edit it there.

yes, of course. But I'm intrested in getting the relevant modifications into the original sources of trac.

[Noah Kantrowitz (coderanger) <coderanger@…>]

Why?

[moisei]

what happens if the project is renamed? what happens if the project name contains a characters not allowed as a part of the file name?

[Noah Kantrowitz (coderanger) <coderanger@…>]

Replying to moisei:

what happens if the project is renamed? what happens if the project name contains a characters not allowed as a part of the file name?

I'm not sure I see the relavance of this. I don't think there is much risk of Trac being renamed in the near future.

[ilias@…]

Replying to Noah Kantrowitz (coderanger) <coderanger@yahoo.com>:

Why?

please, I don't like to discuss essentials of Open Source Collaboration within a ticket system.

I've given the arguments subjecting this ticket, the team can decide now. (to me it's not critical, as I've now a flexible mechanism to alter the templates).

[ilias@…]

changing title

[sid]

-1 on this. It's easy enough to hack the template if this is important to you. I don't mind it on our sites at all, especially if it drives more people to check out this project.

[omry]

So, will this be addressed?

[ilias@…]

defect verification:

visit a project which uses trac (and the original templates)

visit a project which uses modified templates (without the "- Trac" suffix)

Print out a document from both sites.

Then ask yourself honestly:

what does "Trac" has to do on the title of the document.

[anonymous]

Alternate solution:

Use this JavaScript snippet.

$(function() {document.title = document.title.substr(0, document.title.length-7)});

Enjoy.

[ilias@…]

Replying to anonymous:

Alternate solution: Use this JavaScript snippet. {{{ $(function() {document.title = document.title.substr(0, document.title.length-7)}); }}} Enjoy.

This ticket is not about workarounds, but about removing the defect within the trac code base.

[ilias@…]

defect verification:

• visit a project which uses trac (and the original templates)
• Print out a document
• Ask yourself honestly:
  • what does "Trac" has to do on the title of the document?

[hyuga <hyugaricdeau@…>]

Can this ticket be closed yet? The original reporter seems to have dropped their argument, which didn't make a lot of sense to begin with.

[mgood]

Yeah, I agree that this seems fine as-is.

[ilias@…]

similar #6628

[Sam Hocevar]

#7162 is similar, too.

[WouterBolsterlee]

The reasons outlined in the duplicates of this issue are pretty clear: having the title pollutes search engine indexes, makes searching for Trac-related stuff harder, and adds unnecessary branding to projects running a Trac instance.

So, a +1 from me to remove the '- Trac' suffix from the page titles. Please, please, pretty please?

(Note that upcoming Debian packages patch this suffix out by default, fwiw.)

[eblot]

Replying to WouterBolsterlee:

So, a +1 from me to remove the '- Trac' suffix from the page titles. Please, please, pretty please?

I agree: +1 to remove them

[ilias@…]

Any action here?

[anonymous]

+1

[rblank]

FWIW, I'd be +1 on this as well. I've been bitten several times by "Google poisoning" due to this issue.

[rblank]

Fixed in [7536].

[Jason Winnebeck <jpwasp@…>]

FWIW, I'm glad to see this fixed, it is annoying that any time I want to search about how to do something with Trac and I include "trac" in my search results that I basically get a nice list of everyone with a public Trac environment, and no results on "building trac plugin," which can bring up a page about Pidgin plugins. I'm surprised that there was resistance to this because I would think that not having Trac in the page title would help prevent users from believing that there is an association between Edgewall Trac and a project:

New ticket says:

Also, if you have an issue with some other software (Pidgin, MacPorts, VirtualBox, etc.) for which the development is managed using Trac, be careful to create a ticket on their instance of Trac, not here (which is the Trac for Trac itself).

[ilias@…]

Replying to Jason Winnebeck <jpwasp@…>:

I'm surprised that there was resistance to this

That's mostly because of the person (me) which filed the ticket, and some developers which played "Design by Egoism". Sad thing that users suffer from this kind of games.

http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/TracAudit